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Hi Ari and all, 

I'm so refreshed engaging with the same material from 2021 years later now. I have a few questions and am finding  a much deeper appreciation of the joy of articulating evolutionary stages. A few years ago the framework of these stages made me angry- another hierarchy to contend with-  and I was often beating my head around deciphering which stage I was in, thought I should be in, but never admitted to this fixation. Well, I didn't have really anyone to admit to other than myself. Voila. 

1. Edited because I think my first question is not relevant to the first segment alone, but may I ask succinctly if you mean the same thing when you say

“You only evolve from where you are, you don’t skip steps” (evolutionary stages)

"skip steps" here , do you mean that in the same way as an EA "skipped step" in the natal chart? I have a few imps. questions to follow but I think it doesn't fit here. I'll be eager to ask when it feels like it more aligned with the material. 

2. Would it be correct to correlate any given soul's childhood with "saturn/consensus" and then the middle of their lift as "uranus/individuated" followed by the last part of their lift as "neptune/spiritual", not because they go thru all three stages in one life, but because archetypally each soul is evolving from where they came from, has their own definition of what "consensus" is dependent on their culture or upbringing.

3. is it more likely that humanity as a whole will liberate/evolve because liberated ideas from individuated souls will begin to affect consensus, or do you think that there could be a distortion of the individuated ideas that continue to be used for "consensus" reality, because that "distortion" or hyper crystallization is the nature of consensus reality. another way to ask, is, will consensus reality always be 70% of the population or will things start to even out? my hunch is it will even out. but I'm curious. 

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Hi Julianne,

Posted by: @juliannethomson33gmail-com

“You only evolve from where you are, you don’t skip steps” (evolutionary stages)

"skip steps" here , do you mean that in the same way as an EA "skipped step" in the natal chart? I have a few imps. questions to follow but I think it doesn't fit here. I'll be eager to ask when it feels like it more aligned with the material. 

Thanks for your thoughtfulness around that and I look forward to hearing your questions. My implications in that statement are more broadly that the emotional integration of experience is only possible from where we are now - and we can't bypass that. Challenges with that integration is what might cause the "skipped step" signatures you referred to. This is all very Saturn/Moon stuff and of course nodes as we will learn later.

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2. Would it be correct to correlate any given soul's childhood with "saturn/consensus" and then the middle of their lift as "uranus/individuated" followed by the last part of their lift as "neptune/spiritual", not because they go thru all three stages in one life, but because archetypally each soul is evolving from where they came from, has their own definition of what "consensus" is dependent on their culture or upbringing.

I don't know, I'd have to think more about this. In general these stages do have many potential correlations and metaphors far beyond just stages of soul evolution, similar to how the general flow in the zodiac from cardinal to fixed to mutable expresses in life in various ways..

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3. is it more likely that humanity as a whole will liberate/evolve because liberated ideas from individuated souls will begin to affect consensus, or do you think that there could be a distortion of the individuated ideas that continue to be used for "consensus" reality, because that "distortion" or hyper crystallization is the nature of consensus reality. another way to ask, is, will consensus reality always be 70% of the population or will things start to even out? my hunch is it will even out. but I'm curious. 

For sure the "status quo" of consensus will continue to evolve as new ideas become integrated into consensus reality. Beyond that, I don't know about the percentages other than the current percentages I shared are just what seems to be the current pattern on this planet more or less.


   
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